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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 04:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are better and lengthier descriptions of why &quot;lame&quot; is ableist than what I posted in passing here, and you really should check them out before coming to a conclusion.

You&#039;re thinking it&#039;s about the *intentions* behind the word, and whether it&#039;s *intended* as a slur on the people it describes in other contexts, but that&#039;s not the issue at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are better and lengthier descriptions of why &#8220;lame&#8221; is ableist than what I posted in passing here, and you really should check them out before coming to a conclusion.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re thinking it&#8217;s about the *intentions* behind the word, and whether it&#8217;s *intended* as a slur on the people it describes in other contexts, but that&#8217;s not the issue at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Palaverer</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Palaverer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with your reasoning regarding the use of the word &quot;lame.&quot; One of the definitions of lame is &quot;weak;  inadequate;  unsatisfactory;  clumsy.&quot; This is an adjective that can be used of anything that fits that description, not just a person who has diminished use of their legs. To describe something that fits this description as lame is in no way comparable to describing it as gay. What is comparable is describing someone who shows a &quot;merry, lively mood&quot; as gay because that is one of its definitions.

It is also comparable to using a phrase like &quot;fat chance.&quot; This is in no way a slur on obese people because in the context it has nothing to do with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with your reasoning regarding the use of the word &#8220;lame.&#8221; One of the definitions of lame is &#8220;weak;  inadequate;  unsatisfactory;  clumsy.&#8221; This is an adjective that can be used of anything that fits that description, not just a person who has diminished use of their legs. To describe something that fits this description as lame is in no way comparable to describing it as gay. What is comparable is describing someone who shows a &#8220;merry, lively mood&#8221; as gay because that is one of its definitions.</p>
<p>It is also comparable to using a phrase like &#8220;fat chance.&#8221; This is in no way a slur on obese people because in the context it has nothing to do with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1199</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kascendant, thank you very much. 

&lt;i&gt;There’s the base assumption that someone saying “your use of that language is hurtful” is fundamentally manipulative, that it’s said with the intent to control, not out of any genuine response.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s a convenient assumption because it means you don&#039;t have to do or change anything in response. I just trashed a comment on this blog where someone said I was complaining just to complain. That&#039;s really the same silencing tactic, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kascendant, thank you very much. </p>
<p><i>There’s the base assumption that someone saying “your use of that language is hurtful” is fundamentally manipulative, that it’s said with the intent to control, not out of any genuine response.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a convenient assumption because it means you don&#8217;t have to do or change anything in response. I just trashed a comment on this blog where someone said I was complaining just to complain. That&#8217;s really the same silencing tactic, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Kascendant</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Kascendant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only recently found this site, but in reading about this discussion (as well as other threads) I wanted to say how much I admire the spirit behind so much of what you present. I&#039;m finally saying it here because these few posts seem to illustrate the division I&#039;m thinking of very clearly.

Some people interact with the world as if everything and everyone is trying to control them. They resent being told that their method of expression is unecessarily hurtful because they can&#039;t separate their ideas from the presentation of their ideas to others.

(I know there are no absolutes, &quot;two kinds of people&quot; or anything here. I&#039;m just hitting the edges of the seesaw.) There&#039;s the base assumption that someone saying &quot;your use of that language is hurtful&quot; is fundamentally manipulative, &lt;i&gt;that it&#039;s said with the intent to control, not out of any genuine response.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s the idea that if you aren&#039;t meaning to be offensive, and someone is hurt, that any discussion of it exists only to shame you and control your behavior.

You and a number of others here very much seem to come at all of this from exactly the opposite direction. You operate from a fundamental honesty of intent that allows you to take others as whole people, whose opinions and responses were not created merely to impose limitations on your expression. 

I know that sounds simple, but there are so many people who can&#039;t seem to cross that distance. They simply can&#039;t seem to understand that choosing to carefully craft your words for minimal avoidable harm has nothing to do with censoring your opinions or &quot;allowing yourself to be controlled by others.&quot; It&#039;s about a personal choice to make actual decency, not a semblance of righteousness or a fear of backlash, the controlling factors for any attempt at communication. 

It&#039;s a quality I admire very much. I appreciate your example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only recently found this site, but in reading about this discussion (as well as other threads) I wanted to say how much I admire the spirit behind so much of what you present. I&#8217;m finally saying it here because these few posts seem to illustrate the division I&#8217;m thinking of very clearly.</p>
<p>Some people interact with the world as if everything and everyone is trying to control them. They resent being told that their method of expression is unecessarily hurtful because they can&#8217;t separate their ideas from the presentation of their ideas to others.</p>
<p>(I know there are no absolutes, &#8220;two kinds of people&#8221; or anything here. I&#8217;m just hitting the edges of the seesaw.) There&#8217;s the base assumption that someone saying &#8220;your use of that language is hurtful&#8221; is fundamentally manipulative, <i>that it&#8217;s said with the intent to control, not out of any genuine response.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s the idea that if you aren&#8217;t meaning to be offensive, and someone is hurt, that any discussion of it exists only to shame you and control your behavior.</p>
<p>You and a number of others here very much seem to come at all of this from exactly the opposite direction. You operate from a fundamental honesty of intent that allows you to take others as whole people, whose opinions and responses were not created merely to impose limitations on your expression. </p>
<p>I know that sounds simple, but there are so many people who can&#8217;t seem to cross that distance. They simply can&#8217;t seem to understand that choosing to carefully craft your words for minimal avoidable harm has nothing to do with censoring your opinions or &#8220;allowing yourself to be controlled by others.&#8221; It&#8217;s about a personal choice to make actual decency, not a semblance of righteousness or a fear of backlash, the controlling factors for any attempt at communication. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a quality I admire very much. I appreciate your example.</p>
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		<title>By: Introducing What Privilege? &#124; The Hathor Legacy</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Introducing What Privilege? &#124; The Hathor Legacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Privilege&#8221;) was ableist. A couple of weeks later, someone else asked the same question, and I opened a discussion. The discussion was&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Privilege&#8221;) was ableist. A couple of weeks later, someone else asked the same question, and I opened a discussion. The discussion was&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On changing the name to What Privilege &#124; What Privilege?</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>On changing the name to What Privilege &#124; What Privilege?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few months ago, we had a discussion about whether the original name of this website, Blind Privilege, was ableist. As is typical when someone raises a question like this, there were several people who agreed with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few months ago, we had a discussion about whether the original name of this website, Blind Privilege, was ableist. As is typical when someone raises a question like this, there were several people who agreed with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anemone</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Anemone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, great choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, great choice!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it took me several months to find the right name, but welcome to the new domain! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it took me several months to find the right name, but welcome to the new domain! <img src='http://whatprivilege.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Kesler</title>
		<link>http://whatprivilege.com/ableist-language-in-the-name-of-this-site/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Kesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stacy, if we&#039;re talking about ideas, I would agree. But we&#039;re talking about words that convey them. There are a lot of reasons to seek out the very best possible words to use rather than just accepting the first ones that came to mind. It&#039;s nothing to do with fear,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacy, if we&#8217;re talking about ideas, I would agree. But we&#8217;re talking about words that convey them. There are a lot of reasons to seek out the very best possible words to use rather than just accepting the first ones that came to mind. It&#8217;s nothing to do with fear,</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but at least when you’re blogging for the world at large, get a thesaurus and avoid the problematic words.&quot;

No. Write what you want to write, and the devil take the hindmost. Self-censoring because you might offend someone is the sure sign of a scared writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but at least when you’re blogging for the world at large, get a thesaurus and avoid the problematic words.&#8221;</p>
<p>No. Write what you want to write, and the devil take the hindmost. Self-censoring because you might offend someone is the sure sign of a scared writer.</p>
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