Comments on: Mind-boggling example of male privilege http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/ so you think you don't have any Sun, 13 May 2012 08:20:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kirsten http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-1824 Kirsten Thu, 09 Dec 2010 03:06:23 +0000 http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/#comment-1824 Odd. Doesn't anyone remember where the housewife came from? From rich men, to whom a woman was an expensive ornament, a tribute to their wealth and power. She didn't have to work the fields like the peasant women did because her husband (owner) had money. It was a status symbol that became a cultural aspiration and then a norm. Among the poor both men and women have worked throughout history. There may be cultures historical and present whom did not allow women in certain roles (religious positions come to mind), but for the most part the lower class jobs were done by whoever was available. The idea of the frail flower of a lady comes from the wealthy. Feminism is meant to empower women to respect themselves and their own capabilities and to challenge ANYONE who denies us as equals to men. It means making the word equality more than the lip-service it currently is. We've gotten better, but we're still no where near done. We are still treated as being less intelligent, less strong, less capable of leading. Culture shoehorns everyone, yes, but privileged still exists as pointed out on this site. I wish I were as eloquent as you Jennifer. Thank you! Odd. Doesn’t anyone remember where the housewife came from? From rich men, to whom a woman was an expensive ornament, a tribute to their wealth and power. She didn’t have to work the fields like the peasant women did because her husband (owner) had money. It was a status symbol that became a cultural aspiration and then a norm.

Among the poor both men and women have worked throughout history. There may be cultures historical and present whom did not allow women in certain roles (religious positions come to mind), but for the most part the lower class jobs were done by whoever was available. The idea of the frail flower of a lady comes from the wealthy.

Feminism is meant to empower women to respect themselves and their own capabilities and to challenge ANYONE who denies us as equals to men. It means making the word equality more than the lip-service it currently is. We’ve gotten better, but we’re still no where near done. We are still treated as being less intelligent, less strong, less capable of leading. Culture shoehorns everyone, yes, but privileged still exists as pointed out on this site.

I wish I were as eloquent as you Jennifer. Thank you!

]]> By: Jennifer Kesler http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-1352 Jennifer Kesler Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:29:40 +0000 http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/#comment-1352 Oh, you're one of THOSE. That explains the tone of your comments. Feminism hasn't gone nearly far enough in achieving its aims. You just don't comprehend what those aims are. Oh, you’re one of THOSE. That explains the tone of your comments. Feminism hasn’t gone nearly far enough in achieving its aims. You just don’t comprehend what those aims are.

]]> By: DragonLord http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-1351 DragonLord Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:32:02 +0000 http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/#comment-1351 While I sometimes think that feminism goes too far in what it does to achieve it's stated aims. My first thought when reading this was something like. Is this guy for real? Does he really think that men not being able to be housewives is down to women trying to get jobs? How can people be so dense? Unfortunately I fear that he is probably a typical example of the male gender, and as such needs listening to, if only so that his arguments can be dealt with rather than having them stick around and be yet another reason why feminism is bad. While I sometimes think that feminism goes too far in what it does to achieve it’s stated aims. My first thought when reading this was something like.

Is this guy for real? Does he really think that men not being able to be housewives is down to women trying to get jobs? How can people be so dense?

Unfortunately I fear that he is probably a typical example of the male gender, and as such needs listening to, if only so that his arguments can be dealt with rather than having them stick around and be yet another reason why feminism is bad.

]]> By: Hattie http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-623 Hattie Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:53:28 +0000 http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/#comment-623 What you say about the notion that men are beasts as reinforcing the patriarchy is an important insight. This idea helps me to understand why it is that women put up with what they do. What you say about the notion that men are beasts as reinforcing the patriarchy is an important insight.
This idea helps me to understand why it is that women put up with what they do.

]]> By: Purtek http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/comment-page-1/#comment-563 Purtek Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:01:08 +0000 http://whatprivilege.com/mind-boggling-example-of-male-privilege/#comment-563 A thousand 'words'. Mind-boggling is such an accurate way to describe this, because my brain just frazzles right over whenever I hear this argument, which is *a lot*. I genuinely don't know where to start in conversations with people like this, because comments like this "it will always be seen as attacking and hostile to men, nor inclusive to their suffering or needs." smack so hard of privilege, but it's lose-lose to engage with it, because if I acknowledge 'suffering and needs' it's coddling a sense of entitlement, but pointing that out is clearly me being a hostile feminist bitch. A thousand ‘words’. Mind-boggling is such an accurate way to describe this, because my brain just frazzles right over whenever I hear this argument, which is *a lot*.

I genuinely don’t know where to start in conversations with people like this, because comments like this “it will always be seen as attacking and hostile to men, nor inclusive to their suffering or needs.” smack so hard of privilege, but it’s lose-lose to engage with it, because if I acknowledge ‘suffering and needs’ it’s coddling a sense of entitlement, but pointing that out is clearly me being a hostile feminist bitch.

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